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deray you wanted to speak to stephen s point that it s too expensive and that officers are not discriminating. to get to a consent decree there has to have been a proving of a pattern of practice. it s like police officers, you can t pistol whip people. if the officers were not doing it, there wouldn t be a need for it. we ve seen it in cleveland and cities across the country. it s sort of laughable to hear a police union official sort of say there is no proof of it. the only way we got to a consent decree is due to mountains of evidence that the doj produced. people in communities have been saying this for a long time. the proof has always been in people s lives. even the d.o.j. validated it. you can t just dismiss that. there wasn t mountains of evidence. they took 600 reports out of 2.2 million available to them to come to the very dangerous and politically motivated conclusions. barack obama started this the 600 reports don t matter? are they just not they don t ....
Unsuccessful over the years. and it is the strong view of residents of baltimore city that federal intervention is warranted and necessary in this particular case. right. right. this has always been the big question, which is when the feds come in, does it help. de ray, listen to a simplification of the issues that came up on bill marr. what jeff sessions has said, he has never been a fan of these, is that they re essentially walking away from them. and the irony here is that the departmentf juice is saying that they re not invested in police rorm. meanwhile, the police departments themselves are very much invested in it. sure. and so, in ferguson, for instance chicago it sounds like a big [ bleep ] to black lives matter. that s pretty much what it is. de ray. is that right? what do you make of obviously a 180 change here at d.o.j.? i think the administration has been clear that they have no ....
And the people that call us don t care what package we come into. so those are other people s agendas. and it s just not reality out on the street. it s very, very telling to me when now all of a sudden we have all these mayors and police commissioners and police chiefs embracing these department of justice oversight. obama s department of justice oversight, which is very, very dangerous and very, very costly. the city of cleveland, it will cost us $7 million to pay the monitors to the if the department of justice wants to come in and demand reform, then the department of justice should pay for that and not taking the money away from the citizens, from the officers on the street. let me bring in mark and then i know deray wants to react. mark, go ahead. i find it interesting that part of what we re talking about is the resistance for the law enforcement community in general to change or to accept change or to evolve even. and i think most importantly that part of the reform ....
Mismanaged the police departments across this country for decades. they ve reduced budgets. 17 years in a row in the city of cleveland. they reduced spending. we don t have the cars. we don t have the computers in the cars. we want to go to training. i ll go to as much training as you can. if you put two police cars in every zone in the city of cleveland, we will have and we will get back to community engaged policing, which is what we all want. so those are sir, now i m going to pause. i have to manage. monique, i wanted to bring you back in. speak to stephen s point that, a, this is too expensive and that, b, there is and many office say there is a duality between the evidence shows many officers do their jobs. and yet at the same time what stephen is calling political is something that independent federal judges appointed by both parties across the country have repeatedly, to deray s point, have upheld. which is there is documented ....