used in proximity to the border. we are not authorizing strikes 200 miles into russia. we are not authorizing strikes into moscow on the kremlin. laura: oh, thanks. remember the 200-mile rule now. that s no problem at all. this cavalier attitude given where this can lead, which putin responded forcefully to yesterday. we are thinking that if they considerate it possible to deliver such weapons to the combat zone to launch strikes on our territory and create problems for us why don t we have the right to supply weapons of the same type to some regions of the world where they can be used to launch strikes on sensitive facilities of the countries that do it to russia. the answer may be a a met tric. laura: this is not good. suffered tremendous losses with russia.
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a much more cavalier attitude. look at the people they just threw in to the withering fields of fire around bakhmut. now it looks as though they, they want to get bakhmut back, doesn t it? why? because we were always told it had no strategic advantage. and it does have no strategic advantage. bakhmut is an entirely symbolic struggle for both sides, so that when the russians finally took bakhmut, there were medal parades in moscow, there was a great sort of celebration of this victory. but it s a reversible victory. if they can undo that russian victory and say, that s the only thing you achieved in 12 months of fighting, and we ve, we ve unwound that and taken it back, that s pretty embarrassing for putin and the kremlin. so it s really a psychological battle. a number of senior british and american military writers
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the russians used that time to dig in, really effective, almost impregnable defensive lines. they re not stupid. they looked at the map and they thought the obvious place ukraine is going to want to try and drive their main thrust is going to be south of zaporizhzhia towards the sea of azov to try and split the russian occupied area in two. so, they put in deep trenches, tank traps, concrete dragons teeth blocks, minefields, interlocking arcs of fire, all covered by artillery. and that s proving quite an obstacle to the ukrainians. it s not completely impregnable, but the progress they re making is very slow. and quite costly in terms of lives? hugely costly. and one of the big differences between the two armies is that the ukrainians care about their casualties. the russians seem to have a much more cavalier attitude. look at the people they just threw in to the withering fields of fire around bakhmut.
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