video conference with putin today, carry casper notwithstanding? well, the way i stands behind the scenes publicly and president biden communicated to president putin today was very much that, that they don t want to see war. what they want is what they wanted at the geneva summit that i went to and the whole world watched, which is basically de-escalation and the opening of diplomatic channels. you know we have been told that putin himself did not mention russian troops invading ukraine. of course that is the pretext for this whole zoom, we wouldn t be here otherwise. but what the u.s. wants, especially president biden, is dealing with coronavirus, is dealing with other national security threats, and feeling frankly with pretty tough domestic politics than bad poll numbers. he doesn t want to have another concern of a global conflict at