along to pretend that the secret service is not vulnerable. so it is a corrupt culture and you saw an example of that when julia pierson, the director claims after this that he was stopped at the door that he was not armed, that was a total lie. how could any agency put out a lie like that and think that they could get away with it. and when it came out that that was not true, the new director joseph clancy, he was asked about that adhering and whether anyone would be held accountable for issuing that information and that was just an error. and they said how do you know it is an error, and they said i don t know how this happened and number one to be the director and number two, how can anyone on the lower level trust someone like that, how could they trust him stop this very corrupt culture how could you trust them with any information at the secret service today. host: out of the culture developed? guest: it started around 2003 when the department of homeland security t
so to be integrated in this type of society. . . kennedy. he will be answering your calls and tweets until 3:00 p.m. eastern. host: we haveaut the agents themselves are raised and dedicated but therethe agents come is a culture for treating against those that point out th problems or threats punishing agents who questioned anything on the other hand promoting agents into management go along and pretend so it is a corrupt culture and you saw an example of that when the previous direct her claim after this intrusion that he was stopped at the door and that was a total lie. how can an agency put out a lie i cut and think they can get away with it? when it came out of that wasn t true the new director was asked about that at a hearing into whether anybody would be held accountable for issuing a false information adhesive how do and he said how do you know it was an error how do you appoint anybody like that number one, to be the permanent director and number two how can anybody
through this weekend. so that is where i try to be honest about these individuals and i believe we are on the right and that is what i am going to do it. hello, i just wanted to bring attention to the difference between the cia and the fbi and i was wondering [inaudible] and then i saw the advocacy and i learned my lesson that you cannot trust them. so then i got in to this with hb1 visas to work. i contracted an individual and he met with me and he said that he would bring in the head engineer of a nuclear submarine and he said i can get you a bunch of engineers like this. but he said you have to get the visas. and i said okay. this is very helpful. i contacted the va office in michigan at the time, [inaudible] i had been talking about this and i had seen this in the next guy got out and i said oh, that is a tia man. i went inside and i was right. the first thing that they said was we don t need him any information, we have only one. but we would like to do industrial coun
when i first went on the police department never trust the fbi. you cannot trust them. then i got into a business, i was going to do something engineers to this country. high contacted one engineer from russia and said i will meet you when i am in the country. he was head engineer and a nuclear submarine. a whole bunch of engineers like this. it is i contacted the cia office being a next cop, a wasn t a stupid. and with my binoculars i saw the first guy get out of a car. that is a cia man. we need more information on russian nuclear submarines. we got all we want. industrial counter espionage, sending back the rest of the entity spies because i know how the russians treat anybody in this country if they go back, the very first engineer i bring into this country, the state department, as that engineer i tried to get in would be an absolute gold mine for the cia. host: that ties into your early in escape from the cia: how the cia won and lost the most important kgb spy e
and a half from washington d.c. it s one of the, i think you go back in the 50s and 60s when these publishers had their own manufacturing sites they wantedded to find a spot out in the country where they had some farm people. they always viewed the farmers as people that would have mechanical aptitude and that they could, you know draw them into the factories which was kind of the mindb set of, you know doubleday. .. to biographies of prominent political figures like laura bush and joseph kennedy. dr. ronald kessler is the secret service system broken? guest: this system is broken at the management level not necessarily the agency. the agents themselves eidetic faded, they will take a bullet for the president but there is a management culture of retaliating against those to point out problems or threats, punishing agents who question any thing, promoting agents and to management who preached and the secret service is in vulnerable so it is a corrupt culture. you saw an