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Schiavo is now an aviation attorney who represents families suing airlines in crashes and disasters and rob mccullum is a cnn analyst and vice president at williamson and associates and captain van gurley is a senior manager at metron solutions. we ve had five days since the last confirmed ping. rob, at this point does this simply cement the point that the batteries are likely dead and it s time to think about other assets in which to introduce to this area? yes, i think so. i mean, the manufacturer is being very clear about the battery life and, you know, every good effort is being expanded and it s now looking like the batteries are fading and it s time to start mowing ....
Costs them to operate an aircraft, it s not going to be enormous. one of the interesting things here is i think to look at the comparison between air france and here and air france, of course, never had pingers. so they were they had a tremendous amount of territory to have to look at, even though they had a track. so i think that those pingers have got to encourage us. air france took two years. i would hope that having the pingers and the data from the pingers will allow us to not have it go on anywhere near that long. all right. captain van gurley, mary schiavo, rob francis, rob mccallum. thank you. we re going to talk about the extremely difficult work that the searchers are doing there and how they avoid complacency. ....
Other recent airline tragedies. here s randi kaye. reporter: the concord jet takes off from paris. this terrifying video shows the plane on fire as it leaves the runway. the control tower radios the pilots. 4590, you have strong flames behind you. moments later, they crash into a hotel killing all 109 on board. the plane s black boxes are recovered. translator: both boxes are in good state to be decrypted. we have to understand what the data mean. reporter: the cockpit voice recorder unveils the pilot s last word. the co-pilot tells the captain to land. his response, too late. the black boxes also reveal a catastrophic fire in one engine and a loss of power in another. ....
Air france flight 447 caught in a powerful storm and rolling to the right. it is june 2009. a flight from rio to paris. 228 people on board. the plane begins to fall 10,000 per minute and crashes into the atlantic belly first killing everyone. this is a big deal. this is what we are looking for. in the middle of the atlantic ocean. reporter: two years later they found the black boxes deep in the ocean. before the recovery, it was thought the speed sensors were to blame but the pilots were at fault. a transcript from the voice recorder shows confusion in the cockpit. we still have engines. what the hell is happening, a cospy lot asks. another says, climb, climb, climb. and then the captain, no, no, no. don t climb. in february, 2009, flight 3407 also stalls and disappears off ....
Sonar search zone. and so far, you know, they re flying a lot. they re flying 11-hour shifts. basically it takes three or four hours to get there, three or four to get back and fly around the rest of the time. 11 or 12 hours. a very long flight. so far they haven t found anything they find to be linked to that missing malaysian airliner, fredricka. thang mu chance, thank you so much in perth. with australians expressing confidence they ve narrowed the search area, where do we go from here? to our panel. aviation analyst mary schiavo, a are toer inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation now an aviation attorney representing families suing airlines in crashes and disasters. rob mccu cnn analysts and captain van gurley, is a retired navy oceanographer and a senior manager at metron scientific solutions. good to see you all. the pinging signals seem to be ....