The flooding swept away entire families in Derna on Sunday night and exposed vulnerabilities in the oil-rich country that has been mired in conflict since a 2011 uprising that toppled long-ruling dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
those who died. jenna: some of these more important questions, what s next for the country, we can t forget this family affected by his rule. rick, thank you very much. that s an important reminder. jon: so it appears that the longtime dictator is dead. joining us now on the phone from libya is ann mar low, she is an occasional best of this program guest of this program, also a visiting fellow at the hudson institute and currently working on a book about libya s first year of freedom. she is based in a town about 70 miles outside of tripoli. has the word gotten there yet, ann? is. thank you. um, you can possibly hear some of the gunfire in the background here. jon: yes. the town of swarra, the so-called capital of libya, has been going wild for hours. it was part of a parade that involved everything from grandmothers to infants, people firing assault rifles all the way up to 105 mm rockets which