Safe . From hackers and other criminals on the obamacare website . The ants depends on you talk to. The protections that we have in place have successfully prevented attacks. Health care. Gov is not secure today. And nothing is really changed since the november 19th testimony. In fact, from our november 19th testimony, it its even worse. Gerri that was the varying opinions of one Government Official and one hacker at hearings today on the hill. Saying, totally Different Things. So who is right . We brought in our own experts tonight. With more on this is mark, the chief Technology Office and Kevin Johnson ceo of secure ideas. Kevin, you were involved with analyzing the obamacare website and the report that came out today. Who is right on this score . Safe or not safe . Well, first, let me say thank you for having me on. Its a very simple answer. Were not safe. The site has significant flaws in security that will allow you to steal data and take the users of it. Gerri all right. Mark, y