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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:10:14:00

Lives in danger. made him a bad guy. made him a truly evil man. he s bilking old laid i laddies of their money. he s bilking women who are dying of cancer of their life savings. he s bilking women who were dying of end stage alcoholism of every last cent so they end up on welfare. if that isn t evil, i don t know what is. like helen brach linda subcouple to bailey s charms. she was convinced they were on their way to the altar and invested her life savings in the horses. as it turns out, bailey had sold those horses a number of times to a number of different people. it was a swindle from the get-go. linda was left destitute and when her money ran out, so did richard bailey s affections. he took from her everything she had. not only her money, he robbed

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:10:26:00

The horse frauds. jane figured out a horse is worth much more dead than alive. he made his money by burning barns down and collecting on the insurance. by killing horses. and collecting on the insurance. it s horrifying. to see something like that and the horses are screaming and crying. it s held. you smell the skin burning, hair burning. by that time i started freaking out. i couldn t handle it. this was the dangerous world that prosecutors say richard bailey led helen brach into. they say bailey was in thick with the horse mafia. just how thick would turn out to be a critical question. the first time bailey ever came into the stables, i ll never forget him. he wore big old doipers, he looked like a real dork. jane sold him a horse and

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:10:13:00

Old fashioned nice guy. and led them to believe he s a man they could trust with their lives and their fortunes. more than a suave gigolo, baily was a calculating con man and his game was horses. there s a little bit of chaek to cheek dancing, a little bit of champagne, sooner or later this pigeon ends up at the stabs. you got it. they re talking horses. and he s selling them nags. all nags. what kind of money are we talking about? mostly between $50,000 and $200,000. for one horse? for one horse. and helen brach was only one of his victims. digging into bailey s record, miller and his team discovered he had made a successful 20-year career at of horse swindling. what we had evidence of was frauds which really crossed the threshold from simply taking someone s money to putting their

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:10:35:00

She wants horses i can make a good penny out of her? i if i thought like that, i would do everything in about six months. no, i think that whatsoever with helen. how long did your relationship with helen go on? approximately four years. she was really a great lady. personal friend. mr. bailey, what do you think happened to helen brach? i wouldn t really know. i wouldn t really know. the big flaw many the u.s. attorney s case is they didn t prove solicitation to commit murder. a judge bought it, however, and richard s in prison. although bailey admitted to duping women, his attorneys argued it s a long link from fraud to murder. the case against bailey relied heavily on two key witnesses. one is kathy jane olson daughter of frank jane junior the alleged ring leader of the horse mafia. she testified against richard and her father.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110730:10:34:00

Put an extra notch on his belt. that s what happened there. getting you was a feather in the cap. right. i m the only one they could come after because i sold a couple of horses to women. you re not saying you didn t swindle women? i did swindle women. you re not saying that prison time is deserved? no. it s true. wolfson says the women were not the victims the prosecutors portrayed. the ladies were buying richard. there were women who wanted their attention. what else is new. it s not unusual. he s not a killer. he s a per va your. did you get a life sentence for selling some people bum horses? that s what it boils down to, yes. but you didn t kill anybody? definitely not. what about the kandry lady? candy lady? bailey say she was more than an easy mark. did you think this is somebody i can really take?

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