Another one was Orchard Supply that wanted to come in on Howard Street or one of those streets and i forgot which one. And in both cases, the way that the Planning Department came up with how many other formula stores were around it or how many other similar stores, there was not a set kie criteria in the Orchard Supply case, the City Builders was a block and a half or two blocks away and they were never counted as part of it, it didnt make sense, in the case of the sherm an Williams Store they left out a bunch of stores by jerry man did jerry man dering the area. I think that has to be fixed a uniform thing that makes it reasonable. Some things to think about. Thank you. I need to remind that the Public Comment is at three minutes. Any other member of the public who would like to weigh in on items three and four . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. And i would like to open this up for discussion. Steven thank you for coming out tonight, and i think that we need to send the message
Legislation coming down the pike. And it is effecting every neighborhood has their own definition and it is not the same. And i do believe that we need some type of uniformty and that this needs to be brought up. And everybody has their own opinions and it has been in the paper a lot lately, in both and so i really appreciate your comments this evening and it is not an easy one and you are right. There is a lot of legislation coming up regarding this. So, an item number four to discussion and i would like to, and i see that we have some here, the commissioners and any thoughts and any ideas and any thoughts that you may have on this subject and i will start with commissioner ortiz. We should call for Public Comment first. Unless there are other commissioner questions . We will go through questions first and then we will have Public Comment. I am thinking about in the last meeting we had the haze valley and we saw some conditional use, and i think that the question that popped in my hea
Information from this scope to help advise and guide you, does that make sense . Yes. Commissioner dwight . We are just directing specific questions, i think that after Public Comment we can have a little bit of discussion, and i dont, desire to draw it out tonight, because i just think that it is really important that we are starting the conversation. Yeah. Okay, great. Commissioner white . Yes, do you have any data in regards to formula retail in districts that impact Small Business. In regards to when they come into a neighborhood, and if, you know, if there is a closing down of Small Businesses because of their type of business that goes in the area, or could that be included in this rfp. I think that is what we are hoping to gather. How does the presence of a formula retail impact rents vacantcy rates and positively and negatively and how does it impact the Small Businesses and the other question that we are hoping to answer is to what degree does the existence of the cu process s
And ha is what you see is the first big things coming into the city, the big boxes, you are starting to see some of that on coming in from the golden gate bridge, the walgreens and the gas station and ihop and not very much over there but it is sort of sets the stage on what we are. And if we are going to be or if this legislation was put in to make us a unique city to it preserve the small business, i think that we have look at things like the target store downtown being put in. Or the one on masonic and look at it as a broad city, the impact on how it does in the whole city. One thing to think about. And the other thing that i dont think was addressed was, they had two different formula use and things that came up in the last year or two, and one was sherm an Williams Store that came in on polk street and another one was Orchard Supply that wanted to come in on Howard Street or one of those streets and i forgot which one. And in both cases, the way that the Planning Department came u
So, an item number four to discussion and i would like to, and i see that we have some here, the commissioners and any thoughts and any ideas and any thoughts that you may have on this subject and i will start with commissioner ortiz. We should call for Public Comment first. Unless there are other commissioner questions . We will go through questions first and then we will have Public Comment. I am thinking about in the last meeting we had the haze valley and we saw some conditional use, and i think that the question that popped in my head is like internet giant retailers trying to open up the brick and mortar, the spirit of the legislation here is for Corporate Giant not to muscle the Small Businesses out in, and have we even explored that at all. It has come up, and so, i can answer to the current existing definition of formula retail and if amazon. Com were to open a brick and mortar store it would not be considered a formula Retail Outlet unless had it 11 or more outlets and there