so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places. yeah. there s no sacrifice involved. it s. well, it s quite a lot of financial sacrifice! sure, but i don t have any use for that money. i mean, i m not denying myself, you know, the wor
..inspiring reverence for his foresight as well as an overwhelming amount of suspicion. your warnings about the pandemic were eerily prescient. what is the big future threat facing humanity that we re not thinking about enough but should? well, fortunately, we re starting to think enough about climate change, and so i d probably put bioterror, which is a really awful. bioterror and pandemics are sort of the same. bioterror is a little harder to defend against, because whoever s trying to do it is consciously understand your defence system so they can be trying to design around them. but everything you do for pandemics is extremely useful for bio terrorism, and we re not as activated on being ready for that as i think we should be. everything we re talking about involves human reason and rationality, and yet we started off with you mentioning briefly