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shashi tharoor, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. good to see you again, stephen. you just heard me talk about india s current place in the world, the most populous nation, a growing economy, a stable government. would you agree that india right now is in a good place? it s not in a bad place in overall terms. that is that it s a country, it has always been, i think, a country to be reckoned with on the world stage, but now it s number one in global population, it s number three in purchasing power parity terms in the overall gdp, numberfive in dollar terms. it s a country of some substance. it does have free and fair elections. every once in a while we sort of overturn state governments, so we haven t yet been able to overturn the central government. so it counts for a great deal on the world stage. and i must say that when you look at things like technology, it s done rather well for a so called developing country. it s got some very fine talents. we seem to have export ....
hello and welcome to the programme. coastguards are intensifying the search for a missing submersible near the wreck of the titanic in the north atlantic, as estimates suggest the five men on board could run out of oxygen in less than 20 hours. more surface vessels and remotely operated submarines arejoining in and the rescue area has widened. our news correspondent carl nasman is in boston and has been telling me about the search. it s taking shape and it s taking on some new urgency as well with that confirmation that we are getting that some sort of noise or sounds were detected by canadian search teams. this was on tuesday, even into wednesday morning. we still don t know exactly what or who were making these sounds or even the exact location. but what it s also doing is giving these search teams a glimmer of hope. my colleaguejohn sudworth has more. every available asset is being thrown at one of the most difficult sea searches ever undertaken. these are the latest ....
shashi tharoor, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. good to see you again, stephen. you just heard me talk about india s current place in the world, the most populous nation, a growing economy, a stable government. would you agree that india right now is in a good place? it s not in a bad place in overall terms. that is that it s a country, it has always been, i think, a country to be reckoned with on the world stage, but now it s number one in global population, it s number three in purchasing power parity terms in the overall gdp, number five in dollar terms. it s a country of some substance. it does have free and fair elections. every once in a while we sort of overturn state governments, so we haven t yet been able to overturn the central government. so it counts for a great deal on the world stage. and i must say that when you look at things like technology, it s done rather well for a so called developing country. it s got some very fine talents. we seem to have expor ....
thank you for having us, and welcome to luthuli house. it s a great pleasure to be here. how disappointed are you with the state south africa is in today? south africa is undergoing challenges like many other countries. but i think to put us into a category of a failed state, it s an exaggeration. ican give. but you think that s a conversation that south africans are having amongst themselves? well, it comes from pockets of the powerful thinkers in the country who project us as displaying characteristics of a failed state, of course. we may not be too defensive to that. if certain things are not resolved, we will become a failed state. but we are notjourneying towards that direction. but the reality is that if you are a young south african reaching adulthood today, you only have a one in two chance of actually finding a job. 50% of young people are out of work. a state should be able to provide work for its people, should ensure that the economy functions. we have a sou ....
it s just a matter of how fast, did you really believe that? of course i believed it then. i think it s a fair assessment about where the anc find themselves in the last local government elections, in 2021, they, for the first time in post democratic south africa, lost their majority and fell below 50%. this obviously allied with the fact that our economy s not growing, we ve got 30 million people living in poverty, 12 million people unemployed, and loadshedding, rolling blackouts, which have reached into every home and switched off the lights, switched off our factories, and switched off our economy. south africans are realising that if they don t change the way they vote, south africa is going to end up in a very, very dark place, and it s going to be poverty and inequality deepening. well, in that bleak context that you ve just outlined, with the unemployment, what they call here loadshedding , the rolling power cuts, the massive economic problems, how is it that ....