and we understood that if such a situation should arise, you don t kill. and he was armed and probably could have shot, but he got killed. and so, we had worried about the whole story of what was going to happen to these people. and much later, that same indian protection service became corrupted totally and was exposed by the great norman lewis in 1969 in a sunday times colour supplement, the biggest ever. and that was that expose. it was what launched survival international, the fact that a tribe a year was dying out because of our behaviour. well, let us get then to survival international. it has become a very well known campaigning group around the world. it has offices around the world. it s fundamentally committed to the protection of the rights of indigenous peoples and the lands in which they live. absolutely. why is it that it never appears to have had a leadership which draws in and involves the indigenous peoples themselves? it s run, always been run by people like you, from
who weren t supposed to be in the area, but they were doing all the right things. but he was on his own and he got ambushed and clubbed to death. and that, again, was a somewhat cathartic experience to try and think why that should happen. there s a motto that the brazilian indian protection service had die if you must, but never kill. and he was subscribed to that. we talked about it a lot and we understood that if such a situation should arise, you don t kill. and he was armed and probably could have shot, but he got killed. and so, we had worried about the whole story of what was going to happen to these people. and much later, that same indian protection service became corrupted totally and was exposed by the great norman lewis in 1969 in a sunday times colour supplement, the biggest ever. and that was that expose. it was what launched survival international, the fact that a tribe a year was dying out because of our behaviour. well, let us get then to survival international. it h
man, did you think at the time that you were putting these people at risk? as you say, very little contact with any human beings outside their own societies before you came along with yourjeep, you could have transmitted diseases to them. absolutely. and one has to be very careful nowadays to take the right precautions. we didn t know about that in those days. that was new. so, yes, ifeel guilty about that. and at the same time, it was a very extraordinary experience to see those things and meet those people and start worrying about their future. and in fact, the friend i crossed the continent with, richard mason, was, on a subsequent expedition, killed by an uncontacted tribe, who weren t supposed to be in the area, but they were doing all the right things. but he was on his own and he got ambushed and clubbed to death. and that, again, was a somewhat cathartic experience to try and think why that should happen. there s a motto that the brazilian indian protection service had die if
but he was on his own and he got ambushed and clubbed to death. and that, again, was a somewhat cathartic experience to try and think why that should happen. there s a motto that the brazilian indian protection service had die if you must, but never kill. and he was subscribed to that. we talked about it a lot and we understood that if such a situation should arise, you don t kill. and he was armed and probably could have shot, but he got killed. and so, we had worried about the whole story of what was going to happen to these people. and much later, that same indian protection service became corrupted totally and was exposed by the great norman lewis in 1969 in a sunday times colour supplement, the biggest ever. and that was that expose. it was what launched survival international, the fact that a tribe a year was dying out because of our behaviour. well, let us get then to survival international. it has become a very well known campaigning group around the world.
and much later, that same indian protection service became corrupted totally and was exposed by the great norman lewis in 1969 in a sunday times colour supplement, the biggest ever. and that was that expose. it was what launched survival international, the fact that a tribe a year was dying out because of our behaviour. well, let us get then to survival international. it has become a very well known campaigning group around the world. it has offices around the world. it s fundamentally committed to the protection of the rights of indigenous peoples and the lands in which they live. absolutely. why is it that it never appears to have had a leadership which draws in and involves the indigenous peoples themselves? it s run, always been run by people like you, from outside. the result of what we started has been a huge growth in indigenous movements in the countries themselves. that is what we want to see. we don t want to be there organising things from outside. we help people to