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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:16:00

killing, darren, while working on a road crew, saw sandra and ryan together. she goes driving by with her boyfriend in the car. and from what we re told from his co-workers at the time he went ballistic. he just flipped out. at that time and this is important to the case sandra and darren shared custody of their two sons but, remember, she worked evenings at the restaurant, so the boys slept over with darren. and at 6:00 in the morning she would show up, pick them up, take them off for breakfast, get them ready for school and daycare. but larry discovered on the night before she was murdered, sandra stayed over at ryan s house, her boyfriend. he dropped her off at her place at 6:00 a. m. and then the neighbors told larry they saw her leave in her car soon after that, apparently heading to pick up the boys. and neighbors confirmed they saw sandra s car return a short

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:17:00

while later, but without the children. larry learned through his contacts that sandra had a 10:00 appointment that morning to get her nails done at a salon about 45 minutes away. she never made the appointment. so this is how we narrowed down the time of death, before about 9:00 where she would have had to leave to make her appointment. the cops didn t tell him, but larry learned from his own sources that boyfriend ryan had an alibi when husband darren did not. all of which got larry thinking the same thing as the police, must have been darren who murdered sandra. right now, i m driven by the case. i mean, i ve got to get there. many of sandra s friends like crystal hall also thought darren was guilty. i think everyone thought that darren would be arrested immediately and, you know, he would be going to jail and the children would be going to the grandparents or her brother and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:13:00

the rich and verdant estates of the wealthy few. she was in a neighbourhood more working class suburbia than polynesian paradise. in her own small ranch house, in her garage, in her car, she had been strangled to death. it was sandra s new boyfriend ryan shinjo who called the police. said he found her that way. and she was slumped to the right, to the passenger s seat, face down into the seat. roy asher was one of the original investigators. we spoke to him in 2009. this was three years after sandra was murdered. i saw in the back of her neck some ligature marks. we didn t find the cord itself, but we have an idea what could have been used. what?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:34:00

but wait a minute smudge marks and hair. when you look at how this homicide happened, it wasn t sexually motivated or it wasn t a robbery. it really was focused on anger. and so ponce circled right back to those original two suspects, husband darren, boyfriend ryan. but which one? from the file ponce learned ryan, in addition to being a drug trafficker, had also been convicted of domestic violence. and was there something fishy about how he found sandra s body? he told the cops he went to sandra s house. doors were locked. he said he peered through these ventilation slats at the base of her garage wall. said he saw sandra in her car. and calling out sandra, sandra. and then he says he couldn t get into the door. he called a friend to help him open the door. called a friend to help him find a body? wouldn t be the first time a guilty party did that. did ryan remain here at the scene, wait for the police officers, and talk to them then?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:45:00

justice was mired in the political battle. with the new prosecutor saying he couldn t proceed because the alternate suspect, ryan shinjo, had never been completely eliminated. if you have cases where you have multiple suspects and you re going to charge one of those suspects, you better be sure you ve excluded the other suspect. former prosecutor shailene aseri fired back, saying the entire investigative team voted to seek an indictment. the team decided unanimously. it wasn t shailene s decision. it was the team s decision. i definitely feel that there was more than overwhelming evidence to convict mr. galas. you could have gotten that conviction? oh, i definitely believe so. she s dreaming, said kollar, she never would have won. so kollar reopened the investigation again, and delayed the trial again, while his office tried to strengthen the case, and the result was

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