Terms mr. Pied biden the president of the u. S. Would agree to be interviewed. And a devastating death toll rising on maui as rescue and recovery teams find more bodies and thousands of residents are homeless along with stranded tourists on an island that looks like a war zone. Good day, everyone, a busy day in washington. Im andrea. Where u. S. District judge Tanya Chutkan made quick decisions this morning on the size and the scope of that protective order in the criminal case surrounding Donald Trumps alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election. In a ruling from the bench, judge chutkan after prosecutors argued that the order was necessary to prevent pretrial publicity and the defense countered that the pregs counsels parameters were extraordinary decided that the protective order would only apply to sensitive materials and not to all of the evidence turned over to them from the Special Counsel. Judge chutkan also added a clause to the order that would limit the universe of people
It given the political climate? yeah, i think what we ll see judge chutkan do on the first offense is bring donald trump into her courtroom, she will admonish him that future violations will result in more serious action. the big question is whether she will actually revoke his bond and put him in custody pending trial. she knows what she s about. she has a background both as a defense lawyer, she s a very good judge, straight up the middle on the law. if you treat trump like anyone else that means if he violates the protective order he does lose his right to remain on bond pending trial. garrett, tom and joyce, thanks for starting us off. a big day in the courtroom. nearly eight months after attorney general merrick garland appointed robert hur as special counsel in the biden classified documents investigation, we are learning that hur s team is in talks with president biden s attorneys over the terms of a possible interview with the president. nbc white house correspondent
His bond and put him in jail. what i think the judge is doing, however, is a little bit different. she s playing a long game. she has been incredibly patient but she s also wise. she s keeping a very clean record, number one, and number two, her primary concern, frustrated as she may be with mr. stone, is that both parties, not just the defendant but both parties get a fair trial. so as long as she s convinced that she can draw a fair jury and he s not influencing witnesses, it appears that she s willing to give him a little more leash. i d be very surprised if he violated yet again another gag order that she would continue to let him remain out on bond pending trial. to that point, we did see two hours after her order mr. stone s wife start posting about him, photos about him and discussion about today s hearing on instagram. that s obviously from her, not him. would a judge or would a court usually expect that a defendant s immediate family members would respect the same sort of re
Frustrated as she may be with mr. stone, is that both parties, not just the defendant but both parties get a fair trial. so as long as she s convinced that she can draw a fair jury and he s not influencing witnesses, it appears that she s willing to give him a little more leash. i d be very surprised if he violated yet again another gag order that she would continue to let him remain out on bond pending trial. to that point, we did see two hours after her order mr. stone s wife start posting about him, photos of him and discussion about today s hearing on instagram. that s obviously from her and not him. would a judge or would a court usually expect that a defendant s immediate family members would respect the same sort of restriction that was imposed on the defendant? there is the spirit of the order, which they re clearly violating, and then there is the letter of the order, which she apparently did not violate. but this is not a judge to be trifled with. remember, she didn t hes
Office and kill somebody. there was thought put in heremehere. through the course of this investigation, you ll see pre-attack behavior. he had probably been there at least once before to the parking lot. he s going to know where he was going to keep his car to the building. so there are things investigators need to sort of knit together to understand motive. stick with me. i think we need to go to chief correspondent brian todd. he s outside the courthouse in annapolis, maryland where the briefing may have just wrapped up. hi, brian. what do you have? reporter: hi, kate. it did just wrap up. the judge has ordered jargerald ramos to be held without bond pending trial. they have determined he is a danger to others and would pose a significant risk. we are expecting a news conference from the attorney in just a moment.