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will say to the people of ferguson missouri, get to the polls by 7:00 this evening so you won t have to march at midnight. that s the kind of stuff we have got to do today. use the tools that we have. we have great tools to communicate but everything else we can text what do we call it? let s do some voting organizing over the internet. we have the tools. let s use them for a new massive movement that will make sure that we can have in november 2014 the kind of turnout at the polls that we had in 2012 and november. if we voted in presidential elections at the same level, i mean in local elections at the same level that we vote in presidential elections a lot of this stuff that you are fearful of right now will dissipate, go away. guest: we have to do what we can wear began as a professor. i ran the center for the state of democracy and we are organizing a national dialogue. this ear ferguson is on our minds. i think locally it has to be these ferguson problems are loc ....
that is the root and seed bed for black political activism in the united states. he realized if you are going to say you want equal rights and racial justice and whether people believe it because of a philosophical reasons or god has led us to this movement he was fine. during freedom summer he is organizing in mississippi and he is with young white organizers who volunteered to come into the deep south. and he said i know some are marxist and some are others but he said if they thing this is a result of god then thank you god. host: do you view this as a christian movement? guest: it was a religious movement not christian. there were as many jews involved in the rights as christians. there were other religions. i studied all of the great religions. the first a i got in college was in comparative religion. my father was a minister. i grew up in the fundamentalist church. we believed in dunking and my wife s church believed in sprinkles. all of these are symbolic of ....
determination and black people thinking of themselves in way that that in the 1960s were profoundly impossible in some ways. that they were eloquent, beautiful, intelligent, that they had the right to disagree with each other and the mainstream is possible without stokely carmichael. i willconclude by saying that the most burped thing to me about writing the book, stokely: a life, was providing an introduction to stokely carmichael/kwame ture to a generation of americans who don t realize the profound impact he had on american democracy and globally. and whether you agree or disagree with the aspects of what he did he was always, always personal sincere. his sincerity and love for the underdog and poor people and passionate belief in social and political justice is what stands out for me. and the fact he really, really walked the dtalk. he didn t just say he was advocating for black equality. he lived a life of black equality even if that meant not getting the benefit ....
to start off with a call-in question and how many times were you arrested during the civil rights hay day? guest: i didn t keep track. but i talked about the first one and the last one in the book. the first one is the day i met my wife. we met in jail. the last time was in columbia, south carolina in 1961. i remember that one because that arrest led to a landmark breach of peace case called edwards against south carolina. it began a law school case that most universities use the case book method use that case to teach from. i happen to be one of those arrested that day. i remember those two. in between a lot of times we got arrested and were never really charged. just taken to the police station, taken off the streets and put back on with once the crowd disbursed. host: why were you and emily clyburn arrested and what year was it? guest: march of 1966 and it was six weeks after the students in greenboro, north carolina were arrested and several weeks before we fi ....
guest: i have never kept count of the number of times i was arrested. i write in the book about two of them. the first one and the last one. i remember very well the first one. i met my wife. we met in jail and that became a real blessing for me. the last time was in columbia south carolina in 1961. i remember that one so well because that arrests led to a landmark reach of peace case against south carolina. it began the law school, a law school case that most universities that use the casebook method used that case. i happen to have been one of those arrested that day and so i remember those. in between a lot of times we got arrested and were never really charged. we were just taken to the police station, taken off the streets of lawrenceburg and then put back on once the crowd dispersed so i never really kept count on all of that. host: why were you and emily clyburn arrested in what year was back back? guest: it was march 15, 1960. it was six weeks after those ....