hours of overtime in a two week pay period. may result in them not getting enough sleep and as a result, being short tempered, not really being focused and up to the job which may have accounted for some of these behaviors. we don t know. reporter: while their court cases move forward, the deputies are still collecting paychecks. both are on paid administrative leave. in san jose len ramirez, kpix5. tomorrow the board of supervisors will discuss the creation of a blue ribbon panel to look into jail operations. one of the things they ll be looking at is requiring some college education. and the sonoma county sheriff s office is being sued over alleged beatings by correctional officers there. the lawsuit claims 20 inmates were systematically and sadistically attacked in may. inmates say the beatings went on for hours. the sheriff s office says they are unaware of the lawsuit. a roll shows little suspect for san francisco sheriff ross murk who is up for reelection
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starling is. if we re just talking about the nsa, there are so many of them. and they are so technical, that i would be really surprised if the high-level people know the details of more than a small number of the most major programs. i think you would be wrong about that. yeah? i think so. many could not perhaps describe the engineering details, but i would be surprised if there are more than a handful of programs that are not you re right, but there are i mean, impossible to count how many programs there are in the nsa. we can talk thousands, and probably more than thousands. and i just imagine it s beyond the capacity of any individual to have significant knowledge about more than a handful of these thousands of programs. but i agree with bob dietz, and i agree with you. but the answer is, work the low level, the mid level, and the top, if you can. and you re going to get a total universe portrait. anybody else we have a couple of minutes here before there
okay. so i think what this case illustrates in the broader trends that we were talking about are some threats to press freedom, but i think it s important to put that into a global context. and there are many countries, including russia, that have far worse press freedom records and where journalists are imprisoned, journalists are killed and their murders are never investigated. indeed, in most cases of george journalist murders, nine out of ten are never investigated. several outstanding in russia as well. we have to keep this in perspective. i mean, there are threats certainly to the free practice of journalism. luckily we live in a country that has rule of law and due process. in many countries those things are missing. let s keep this in perspective and not let this become an excuse for say authoritarian governments to use in their crackdown on press freedom. just in the same light, nor should we let the fact that authoritarian regimes exist give us an excuse to brow
i have to think about that for a minute. i just came here, really, today, to thank everybody involved with this. i was not involved with this petition drive at all. and anybody who knows me knows i couldn t organize a one-car funeral. the fact that this has happened just leaves me speechless. and the main thing that gets to me is i realize i don t deserve all this. but i also know it s really not about me. it s about some basic issues that affect all journalists and all americans. you know, when the my lawyers always tell me never to talk about my case. but there s a couple of things i can say. and one is that the justice department and the obama administration are the ones who turn this really into a fundamental fight over press freedom in their appeal to the fourth circuit. they said this that this c e case, the central issue of this case was not some details or specifics or anything. that the fundamental thing this case was about was that there was no such thing as a r