potential opponent to jeff flake, whom president trump endorsed on twitter, what do you think how do you think this plays into the whole thing? she was on breitbart radio talking about the president s support of her. yeah, well, clearly jeff flake is no breitbart is no fan of jeff flake. and so, you know, there will be times when the breitbart agenda and the president s agenda overlap. but i think in the main, on these big picture issues, immigration, trade, and foreign policy, i think we re seeing the president move away from steve bannon s agenda. and the further he does, i think the more daylight and the more open this conflict will be. already we saw another blistering breitbart headline this morning that took issue with the white house s potential embrace of amnesty and legislation for the dreamers as part of an immigration overhaul. and if the president does do
bannon was warned not to leak classified information he had as a white house insider. i think clearly the laws for leaking classified information apply to both current and former government employees. so clearly that would apply to steve bannon as well. i think what we re seeing really is really a big policy debate going on between breitbart and the white house. and last night s afghanistan speech that the president gave was another opportunity for steve bannon and his allies at breitbart to hammer this white house. because for weeks and months, steve bannon had been advocating inside the white house to withdraw and pull out official u.s. involvement in afghanistan. the breitbart audience is tired of endless war. in fact in some ways there would probably be a lot of overlap with democrats on this issue. they don t want to have this endless, open-ended commitment. kelli ward, the gop arizona
loyal to donald trump. what steve bannon is loyal to is the economic nationalist agenda that breitbart was pushing forward and steve bannon tried to enact in the white house. steve bannon is going to be loyal to that agenda. if the trump white house deviates from that, all bets are off. breitbart, as we ve seen, is already willing to go to war with the white house. if donald trump thinks steve bannon will be on the outside, a surrogate or advocate for him, if he doesn t follow through on the conservative populist agenda that bannon wants, i think the president is highly mistaken. in this article you say the two clashed fiercely on personnel and domestic policy decisions. in the final weeks bannon was relentlessly tarred as a prime west wing leaker. bannon s allies make a similar case against kushner.
warned that if the president deviates from his campaign positions, quote, we re prepared to help paul ryan rally votes for impeachment. the author of that article is gabe sherman, msnbc contributor and special correspondent for vanity fair, he joins me now. gabe, i want to be clear on something, because this has all happened to fast. steve bannon leaves. breitbart, one of their editors, tweets #war. there s a real implication, steve bannon himself says in an interview that the trump presidency as we know it is over. the white house seems to imply the idea of having steve bannon on the outside is good for them because he can do something in parallel to the white house. is the war with the white house or for the white house? with trump or for trump? ali, it s good to be here. the number one thing viewers need to understand is steve bannon, who i know well, i ve covered him since last summer, since the presidential campaign, steve bannon has never been