with former secretary of state hillary clinton who joined us to talk about the 2024 election and the threat that her 2016 opponent, donald trump, poses to the future of american democracy. how do people manage, especially people who really love this democracy, who take it seriously, who take the words you just said on our show very seriously, that you can t just sit back and let democracy come to you, that this is, every day, something we all must work on together, what do you say when people ask you about the former president, these trials, these delays, and the fear that they feel about the upcoming election? well, mika, i m happy to go to therapy with you any time let s do it. clearly, the pressure and the stress on our system, our country, our constitution, our future is so intense. for those of us who understand what s at stake and i don t mean that in a, you know, derogatory way to others no. but if you ve been in this world as you and i have, you ve s