bird room and all of that and making the numbers add up and balance out, it limits what you can do period. in the end, everyone seems to be disappointed. those that want big tax cuts, they re disappointed. people that want control over the deficit like john mccain, they re disappointed. was it worth it? oh, it s absolutely worth it. i still am a big deficit hawk. that s why i m spending so much time on this bill and encouraging congress to pass it. the deficit equation is simple. it s revenues minus expenses. when you have revenues smaller than deficits neil: you ll have a deficit here. $1.5 trillion more. i don t think that number is right. i think senator corker, another big deficit hawk that that $1.5 trillion now is a smoke and mirrors number.