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and also the e-mails. jonathan has written a lot about this the sort of obsession the media has with clintons a scandal bucket, anything they do is suspect. there was a piece in your book where it talks about bill clinton not wanting hillary clinton to apologize for the server. and to rather explain it. explain that a little bit. yeah, you know, there was a lot of debate about what she needed to do with the e-mail issue. and it took up a lot of oxygen that sumner 2015. they were trying, she had just launched her campaign, big speech at roosevelt island. they couldn t quite get their message across. it was completely overshadowed by e-mail. so there was this big debate internally about what they do and how they handle it. i think they both thought for a while they shouldn t apologize, that what they did was above level and that they didn t really need to do that. and i know a lot of her aides were kind of pushing them in the direction and felt that they should acknowledge it and ....