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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706



my parents always told me that monsters don t exist. i can tell you with absolute certainty, that is 110% false. he is a monster. a wife and mother killed in her own home. we get a phone call from a screaming irrational call at the other and. i said is it rachel? she said what do you mean, someone came in the middle of the night and murdered her? who murdered her? police discovered, rachael had a complicated love life. she said i felt hopelessly in love with you. were you married with someone else? i wanted to get out of the marriage as soon as possible. was there a bigger secret? varied in this box? for realizing there was a former wife. we re coming around this turn. a whole side of the mountain is on fire. marriage, money and murder, some say more than one. when people say i know how you feel, you have no idea how i feel. i don t want you to know how i feel because no one should ever feel this way. the night was profoundly dark, the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:24:00

once a marine, always a marine, they say. james white loved everything about the core. i miss marine corps very much. though not so much as his next job as a mississippi deputy sheriff. what was it you didn t like about it? i don t like seeing human suffering on a daily basis. so, after a failed marriage and with his young daughter in tow he moved back to the place he started out, northern california, that little girl kaitlyn white is all grown up now. we re more best friends than father and daughter, we fight like siblings and we re more focused on having fun and not really caring about what other people think. james and caitlin had a house together in the sierra mountains, coincidently just a few miles from rachel and todd s air park. james started a handyman business and again, pure coincidence got some jobs at the air park. he also started a website ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:48:00

The backyards with their guns drawn, facing todd s house. what happened next, floored marianne calk low. and i saw todd walking backwards across the street. stop right there, turn around! put your hands on top your head! drop down to your knees. yay keep your hands on top your head, do you understand me? there s no one else inside the house. where is your wife? you said nobody else is inside. my wife is dead. how could it be? rachel was just 37 years old. with those three year little children to whom she meant the whole world. where is your wife? she isn t, when you enter the house and turn to the right. the first bedroom on your right. and you re sure she s dead? i m positive. how can you be, how are you sure? no pulse. no breathing. amid the chaos, frantic calls. one of the neighbors reached rachel s father. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:06:00

Winkler. and now suddenly, there were two mattis herself, what really happened in that bloodstained bedroom? the prosecutors listen to todd s version of events, and that was her job of course. but still, who else into house all what happened? there was no want to contradict the story. but then they investigators found that box of ashes. we realized there was another life. yes there was. todd had been married before, and clearly, the ex-wife was dead. so what happened to her? prosecutors said she would have to find out. and that, she said, had to follow a trail. that led to mid georgia. and gerald johnson. a judge now, but back in 99, a rookie detective. it really shocked me, that i ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:05:00

Minus the fact that there is this yellow crime scene tape. and then you walk through that, and you walk through the doors. and the house is a complete disarray. kitchen is undone, baseboards missing all over the place. the house is not put together at all. and the garage, that , investigators found todd s mustang, rachel s as uv, a boat, and them w cycle and parts of a plane that needed referred sharing. and inside the house, a massive effort, they found something else to. something quite unexpected. blue box. in it? ashes. what? at the bottom of the box, a label that simply said, cremated remains of kathryn ....

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