Seen time and time again. And, they will not leave it alone. They wont let it go. And it would be, perhaps more evident, if the congressional delegation from ohio wasnt so outrageously gerrymandered. Yes. Anyway, its a good day for people who like democracy, and Representative Democracy at that. Thank you my friend. And thank you for joining us from home, for this hour of television. Imagine, for one second, what a speech from a former president normally looks like. Maybe its the opening of a president ial library, maybe its a university commencement, you get the idea. And then, there are speeches from our most recent former president. Before i show you his speech today, i have to warn you, it is vulgar. But we are going to play it, uncensored for reasons that i wont will outline after i play you the sound. So, prepare yourself. Im sorry, i will be able to go to iowa today, i will be able to go to New Hampshire today, because im sitting in a courtroom on [bleep], because, his Attorney
This would be something new. and, that comes after we got this a very great reporting from betsy woodruff swan on politico. on monday, jack smith s prosecutors had a closed-door interview with a friend of rudy, bernie kerik. and they asked mr. kerik, multiple questions about how trump s pack, save america, raise enormous amounts of money in the weeks between the election and january 6th. you may remember that trump raised more than 200 and $50 million in the eight weeks after the 2020 election, and he did so by running ads like this or. america deserves an honest election. this is what they got. suitcases of ballots, added in secret in georgia. dead people voting in wisconsin. a money for votes scheme in nevada. poll watchers denied access in pennsylvania. faulty ballot drop boxes, and crooks facing felony charges in michigan. the evidence is overwhelming. for months, well before
National correspondent and msnbc contributor betsy . and former federal prosecutor and co-host of the prosecuting donald trump podcast andrew weissmann. thank you both for joining me tonight. andrew, are we going to see a superseding indictment here, or do you think this grand jury action is about the coconspirators who are unnamed in the initial indictment? well, i think that the odds of seeing this superseding indictment in the january 6th case against donald trump are low. and, that s because it s clear that the prosecution wants that to go to trial, and they want a trial date, and they want it to be either before the election. fast-tracked. or even before the republican nomination. but, what we could see is to your point, the coconspirators, i think it s highly likely that some, if not all, we will be indicted. in fact, in a separate case. and then on the financial piece, that also could be a separate set of charges. and that doesn t necessarily
Mean for the standpoint of the lies governing campaign finance? betsy, just really quick. i mean from tim parlatore, who we ve had on this program as recently as last week. is the lawyer in question here, there has not been the public suggestion that bernie kerik is going to be given, shall we say evidence the prosecution. but it sort of sounds like he might. that s right, i am not aware of any indicators that bernie kerik s testimony was the sort of discussion that would have gotten rudy giuliani in trouble. but he is a port of course, we could he just knows so much. when it comes to the question of filling in factual gaps, having somebody who was in the room for conversations, having someone who can explain all of the minor characters who played important but perhaps underestimated roles in the machinations that rudy giuliani and sidney powell were involved in. carrick himself provides that valuable insight. he is not indicated, in trump s