to a certain threshold and then both have kind of moved back. rachel, what do you think? now i think we re looking at a p. r. a battle for hearts and minds throughout this entire thing. and there s a lot of talk of potential false flag, false flags, could it escalate? could it deescalate conflict? i think ultimately it s just going to keep following its course and there s going to be these will incidents here and there, and nobody really, as you mentioned, peter has an interesting escalating any more. but it does allow for each party to jackie for position, and that s ultimately what we re seeing with this is an incident as well. i m a ryan, i m really glad that rachel, i mentioned the word propaganda cuz she is absolutely right because this is what it has been most of the time coming from the west. so we have this doubting of the drone, but the, even them, um, the least thoughtful people in the western or not many left with they didn t. no one has said it s been shot down. i
cross sucking ukraine and propaganda. i m joined by my guess, ryan christian in franklin. he is founder, an editor of the last american, but back upon an host of the daily wrap up in paris. we have rachel marston, she is a syndicated column. this an rti contributor. and here in moscow we have pepe escobar . he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia, or a cross soft roles. and the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i would appreciate, i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody s take on the, the, the downing of a drone over the black sea and the reaction, both governments, russian and american to that fact because it s very interesting that they ve gotten to a certain threshold and then both have kind of moved back rachel, what do you think? i think we re looking at a p. r battle for hearts and minds throughout this entire thing. and there s always a lot of talk of potential false flag falls, flags could
including those with hello and welcome to cross ok. we re all things are considered. i m peter lavelle slowly but surely, legacy media support of the west warren russia is changing. ukraine is not winning, in hardly likely to win in the end. propaganda is at times powerful but hard. cold facts eventually trump fables written by the elite mediocre scribes cross talking ukraine and propaganda. i m joined by my guess, ryan christian and franklin founder, an editor of the last american vagabond and a host of the daily wrap up in parents. we have rachel marson, she is the syndicated columnist, an rti contributor, and here in moscow we have peggy escobar. he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia, are in cross cock rules and a fact that means he can jump in anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. i want to go to rachel 1st in paris. i want to get everybody s take on the, the downing of a drone over the black sea and the reaction, both governm