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go ahead. can i i want to answer my good friend john on this issue. he s not wrong about that, but remember, the bernie sanders plan was $6 trillion. the joe biden plan was 3.5 trillion, and now this number is not going to be above 1.75. having said that, the things that are in this bill, fgoverno, people are really popular, they re polling above 65%, whether it s helping parents taking care of their kids or elderly parents when they re sick or access to health care or all the other things in it that make sense. this is not some kind of far reaching bill. when you think about and i agree with you by the way about the infrastructure bill. everybody in america knows what it s like to drive on a bad road. they need bridges, highways, they need airports. they need trains that run on time, and clearly every president in the last 25 years has tried to get that done. so that s a home run. i don t see a big difference between what senator blumenthal and senator manchin said. take some ti ....
we have 30 seconds. which candidates have the strongest plans? i don t know. it is definitely the case that the most ambitious is bernie sanders plan, and i don t even think that s a sort of dispute. it s a $16 trillion plan and would be equivalent to something that looks like world war ii mobilization. the question about that is is that anywhere remotely in the bounds of the politically possible particularly if democrats were not to win the senate. the answer to that is plainly and flatly, no. but how much of it would be in the realm of politically possible even with a democratic senate? fascinating and really interesting for you to be pressing these folks with our viewers. we can catch you with more of these news worthy highlights at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. and we have one more thing when we come back. and we have one more thing when we come back ....
that s a there s different ways to instituting medicare for all, than the bernie sanders plan. they were all behind that. the notion of making private insurance illegal, which was the cornerstone of senator sanders plan, and everyone got behind. i m waiting for senator warren. i m sure in the next month or so, she s going to come out with some plan, that starts distancing herself. they matters. we re not going to beat president trump that will be running on things that will be deeply unpopular for the american people. medicare for all would be. and the democrats don t take it to president trump, on his divisiveness. and the plans are important. you have to have a plan to win. you have to have message money ....
it is a difference, as far as what the bernie sanders camp believes and their belief it should be a full single payer system. what warren camp believes is this is medicare for all in 2019. let s take a look at the details here. it scales up medicare. again, this is medicare as we currently know it. it does allow for traditional medicare, the government-run program we all think of. there is a private option in today s medicare. it is called medicare advantage. about a third of medicare enrollees choose to go this route. what the harris plan envisions is scaling this up for every american to be able to buy into. it is a stark difference from the sanders plan, which would basically eliminate all private insurance. the other thing the harris camp does, this is a distinction with the bernie sanders plan is that sanders believes he can get ....
About that? i think the president very well may have a point, because this would be a very big move towards a socialistic society, and i don t think it is a smart thing to do. look, the interesting part about this is that bernie sanders is driving the whole conversation about this. neil: to be fair to the guy, he started it all; right? yes, he did back in 2017, he actually proposed it in the senate. that s what got the ball rolling. bernie s a little bit different than the other candidates in that he wants to eliminate completely private insurance. the other candidates are really not on board with that. they are looking more at a system like canada, where you do have a socialist neil: elizabeth warren and others did raise their hands that they would nix private insurance to do this. well, i don t think it is a good idea, neil, and i don t think even though it polls well, when we start to see the cost, bernie sanders plan is about 2.5 trillion per year extra, to have medicare ....