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It was tens of thousands. Isil turned their leaders. In the absence of leaders of the military formation, the soldiers will not stick around and wait to see what happens. Collect some of the leaders of those divisions. I will tell you that when i was there from 2005 to 2007, several things were clear to me. We could equip them to fight. It would be harder to give them the logistics architectures. But we did. The hardest thing of all, as i say now, is to build leaders and have those leaders supported have those supported. To you question and by the way, there are still many Iraq Security forces, multi confessional, not just one sect or another who are standing and fighting. But the entire enterprise is at risk. Host what do you make of that . Guest i think they are saying we did train them so they had the skill set to fight and be successful but you have dont t have the will. Will cant be trained. You have to be signing up to lay yo ....