american people will see this for what it is. let s get more on this now with my colleague katty kay, who s our us special correspondent, and one of the hosts of the bbc podcast americast. thank you forjoining us. just listening to mike pence, there, using pretty much the same language as donald trump, this is a political persecution, talking about this being offensive, it all being political, does that. does that really reveal what mike pence thinks about all of this? or, for some cynics, is this mike pence trying to keep hold of those voters that perhaps donald trump already has? yeah, mike pence, i mean, a bit like ron desantis, has called this un american. we know that mike pence is thinking of running for the presidency and we know that ron desantis is thinking of running for the presidency and both of those men
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griff: there is a lot of them. katie: there sure are one thing i m finding quite interesting having a college student a new survey came out saying 88% of college students agree saying merry christmas is not offensive. ed: imagine that. griff griff that s right. ed: look at survey from college fix. talked to a thousand college students around the country. 88% saying yes, is it offensive to wish merry christmas to a stranger? 4% no, 8% not sure. katie: one thing that was interesting about this survey is that it went across all political beliefs. the majority were independent, and then there were more democrats than there were republicans. so, for 4 hers to say that merry christmas was offensive in the heated political climate where everyone thinks that everything is politically incorrect to say a very happy to hear, that we can still say merry christmas without being offensive. griff: your college aged child at ole miss my alma