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going into 2022 might not be in beijing or moscow, but in the united states. its name is trumpism. the u.s. is sleepwalking toward calamity, one that could take the rest of the world with it. joining us now is tony keller, the editorial page editor of the globe. thank you for being with us. why is it that you think that trumpism as it were isn t just dangerous to the united states, but the biggest threat to the world? yeah, well, look, the united states is, you know, you re the indispensable super power. we will always have things we ll disagree on, we ll criticize you, just as there is disagreements within u.s. politics. but at the end of the day, you re the indispensable super power. you re the leader of the free and democratic world and we need your politics to go well for the rest of the world to prosper. it basically comes down to that.

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