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page from donald trump and give you an idea. there is an all-star apprentice. why can t we have an all-star westminster dog show? we would say there is no such thing as a past winner at westminster. gretchen: what is the quality you look for? the dogs, they re all different breeds and they re so different. what is it? they are all great specimens of their greed by the time they get to that final seven. but when you get there at the end, you ve got to own the ground you stand over and have that showmanship, that personality, pizzazz, whatever you want to call it. brian: i know you put a lot of work into this. a great moment for both of you. it was; that s for sure. i had him for two years now. that s how long he s been showing the country. it s a wonderful ride. brian: he deserves a bowl of beck s beer.