i think nancy pelosi should pray that rudy giuliani will continue talking out there. yeah. again, the shocking thing, mika, is they don t have a lawyer to tell this guy who actually believe it or not once was a lawyer, i guess maybe he still is. but he s certainly stop talking. well. that s what a good lawyer would do. rudy, stop talking because whatever you re saying is hurting the president s cause and your cause. you get feeling that rudy and the president don t know exactly what their job is at this point. we re live this morning from the u.s. capitol where in just about a half hour we re talking live with house speaker nancy pelosi. a morning joe exclusive. still with us here on capitol hill is sam stieb and we ein an bringing in the democratic congressman sean patrick maloney of new york. also with us is proffessor of
the attorney-client realm. rudy said i wasn t acting as his attorney. so he can t say that the conversations with the president are privileged. or the work is privileged. and now it s like rudy is going down a cliff and he s reaching up and he s grabbing the entire state department. yeah. and dragging it down the cliff with him saying, if i m going to fall, everybody s coming down with me. he definitely should get an award. that s the only explanation is that he s covering his rear end at that point. because i m watching that thinking, do you think that s better that the state department that mike pompeo and the state department directed you to have private meetings with sa saturday lens ski s aide and madrid and other places? that s not better. it s incredible if the goes in the category of we re going to release this category of the phone call we made because that s going to help us.
this point his duty to his constitutional role is to vote for impeachment. this was a pro, pro nixon guy if the was the words on the page. my question is, will the words on the page have a couple of charles wiggins particularly in the senate? i was thinking the same thing. i ve told the story, mika and my father many times before, all in for nixon through woodward and bernstein. and when my dad saw the words on the page, i remember it like it was yesterday. i was i think i was maybe 9, 10. and my dad s sitting there reading and he was all in for nixon. and it was all eastern liberal conspiracy. and i remember my dad looking at the newspaper and just saying, if this guy did half of this, he is unworthy to be president of the united states. and just is
the constant partisan media that has returned, the 18th, 19th century model, that s kind of back where we are. the thing i m looking for, and joe would appreciate this, is the charles wiggins moment. so, willie, try to control yourself with your excitement and mika about charles wiggins being mentioned. but charles wiggins, as my friend has written, was a california republican congressman who was all in for nixon until august 2nd, 1974 when he was given a transcript of the smoking gun tape where nixon tries to use the cia to stop the fbi. and at that point, reading the words on the page, not even hearing it, but reading the words on the page a guy who had been totally for nixon, totally, this is august 2nd, 74, 25 months, 26 months after the watergate break-in he decides at
2022, they re actually going to be looking at donald trump s approval ratings among republicans in their home states. and i would suspect that when the 90s melt into the 80s, and then into the 70s, at that point i would think most republicans feel like they have the power and they also have the political ability to explain to their state why the president needed to be empeecimpeached. again, jon, what is so remarkable about this, donald trump is isolated from republicans on the hill. you talk behind the scenes. they loath him. he is not only is he not a conservative, he is a guy who spent his entire life giving political contributions to chuck schumer, to hillary clinton eight times, to charlie