Government and the Justice Department, thats the perfect way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president , correct . It is appropriate for the Justice Department and the prosecutor again to cooperate and exchange information, yes. To the extent the president had concerns and the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham looking into that. Is that entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for should be in touch with our official challenge . I dont know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. Now, were you involved, either of you involved in the preparation for the 7 25 call . I was not. I was not. How do you account for that . I mean you were the two officials responsibility with ukrainian policies. If the president of the united
states having a call with the leader of ukraine, why would you not ordinarily be involved with the preparations. In preparations for a president ial phone call that lies within staff of the National Security council. If ther
Mean, thats the appropriate way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president , correct . Its appropriate for the Justice Department and the Prosecutor General to cooperate and to exchange information, yes. To the extent the president has concerns and to the extent the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham look into it, isnt it entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for president zelensky and say youn touch with our official channels . Mr. Castor, i dont know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. Now, were either of you involved with the preparation for the 7 25 call . I was not. I was not. How do you account for that . I mean, you were two of the key officials with responsibility for ukrainian policy. If the president of the United States is going to have a call with the leader of ukraine, why
wouldnt you ordinarily be involved with the preparation . Sir, we work for the Department Of State in an embassy overseas. Preparation for a president
sponsorship. the time of the gentleman has expired. we ll now move to 5-minute member rounds. i recognize myself for 5 minutes. mr. kent, i want to follow up on my colleagues questions regarding burisma. you testified about a time when an oligarch was self-dealing awarding himself contracts. when was that? to the best of my knowledge, he was minister of energy sorry, minister of ecology from 2010-2012. at the time, licenses to have substrata exploration of gas for awarded by a subdivision of the ministry of ecology. so this corrupt self-dealing then was approximately seven years before the events that bring us here today, the phone call on the 25th and the events around it? correct. his time as minister was
biden s he s sort of given a spee speech. he s a little folksy about how he went into ukraine and told the ukrainians if they don t fire the prosecutor, they re going to lose their $1 billion in loan guarantees. have you seen that? i have. he also said he s been to the ukraine 13 times. do you know if that s accurate? to the best of my knowledge while he was vice president, he made six visits. did the state department never express my concern to the vice president s office that the vice president s role at the time engaging on ukraine presented any issues? no. the vice president s role was critically important. it was top cover to help us pursue our policy agenda. but given hunter biden s role in burisma s board of directors, at some point you testified in your deposition that you
mr. juligiuliani being involved this in that article, yes, sir. i think one of the mothers of all conspiracy theories is somehow the president of the united states would want a country that he doesn t even like, he doesn t want to give foreign aid to, to have the ukrainians start an investigation into bidens. with that, i yield to mr. jordan. thank the gentleman for yielding. ambassador taylor thank you for being here. aid s held up on july 18th, is that right? that s when i first heard about it. then it s released on september 11th. we know that from your deposition in those 55 days that aid is delayed you met with dlen three ti zelensky three times. again, according to your deposition and your testimony there was no linkage of security assistance dollars to investigating burisma or the bidens. second meeting is august 27th. again in this 55-daytime frame