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Getting listened to and the fact that this happened during covid. we have insufficient staffing. we don t have enough resources to do imaging and people are always cutting corners. it is that combination of problems that make this happen. but that doesn t mean we should accept it as a mom myself, my goodness, that story hurts my soul. me too. but i also have kept it in mind. actually, i will say pamela that i ve diagnosed a few women with ap appendicitis. and that is awareness that this happened. and i m learned a lot through jake s story but they were focused on one symptom when there are other tell tale signs that it could be appendicitis so this is raising awarness. great conversation. thank you. well fnew comments about ....