trying to take this in another direction. and i really do think, remember the old sherlock holmes business about the curious incident of the dog that didn t bark in the night. this town leaks like a sieve. if they gu fknew for a fact tha somebody colluded with the russians, we d have known this months ago. all of these leaks that are coming out and this is not coming out. it s because i m convinced there s no there there. you think the president didn t mean barack obama when he called him sick, and personally kind of attacked him, said it was mccarthyism and all the rest? i really do think that the president thinks that he has been under surveillance and but the fbi server at trump tower was looked at by the fbi. he believes there was some form
be involved in terms of collecting information to try to get to the bottom of whatever is going on. we just don t know yet. it may be counterespionage, it may be as you indicated, a lot of smoke and no fire. for having been involved in a couple counterintelligence matters myself, there seems to be a lot more smoke than there s gotta be something behind it. you believe that, as someone who s been involved in an investigation? if i were leading the investigation, i would say, look, i defer to the lawyers, and law enforcement on how to move it forward, but i think there s something here. were you surprised comey went as far as he did today? i was. i was too. i think we are out of touch. i think that the average person watching, number one, the average person didn t watch this hearing today. i know, but can we just stop that argument. because that argument is made all the time.
involved in investigations? if i were leading this counterintelligence investigation, i would say i defer to the lawyers on how to prove this and move it forward but i think there s something here. were you surprised comey went as far as he was today? i was, too. i think it would have been easier for him to say this is a a very sensitive investigation and because of all the sensitivities i think we re out of touch. i think the average person watching number one, the average person didn t watch that hearing today. can we stop that argument? that argument is made all the time. if you use that argument, nothing really matters. the only thing that matters is someone as family life and their day-to-day activities? i m not trying to shut it down with a phony way to shut it down. i sincerely think there was a time d 15 years ago if a hearing like this what taken place, the country would have
the distinction. he said the one investigation on hillary clinton was closed and this one was open. but the fact is he talked about the clinton e-mails 11 days and two days before the election, was it closed then? no, it was reopened or in some kind of a twilight stage. the reality is i don t think it can be justified. is there a reason you didn t press him on that today. you know, frankly, i m not sure that there s much value to reliving it in that question. i thought that that was the wrong judgment call at the time the director talked about that so close to the election. i think that violated department policy and i can t reconcile the approach you took there and his unwillingness to sign the attribution, acknowledging that the russians were interfering. that didn t even go necessarily to any trump campaign involvement. when congressman doughty
no, it s re-opened, or in some kind of a twilight stage. the reality is, there was a double standard employed here, and i don t think it can be justified. is there a reason you didn t press him on that today? you know, frankly, i m not sure that there s much value to relitigating that question. i thought that that was the wrong judgment call at the time the director talked about that so close to the election. i thought that violated justice department policy, and i can t reconcile the approach he took there and his unwillingness, for example, to sign the attribution that the other intelligence community leaders signed on october 7th acknowledging that the russians were interfering. and that didn t even go to any trump campaign involvement. when congressman gowdy began naming obama officials, where do you think he was going with that, all in his line of questioning about the leak