he attacked him. i m not talking about mr. arbery attacking travis. all right, here s the concept of excessive fofrs. and this is a big one. because if you use excessive force during your self-defense, guess what? you re not justified, you re guilty. not justified, you re guilty. if you use excessive force. because it s force that exceeded what was reasonably necessary. you guys ever heard of the term, that saying, you can t bring a gun to a knife fight? it s unfair, right? you can t bring a gun to a fistfight. it s unfair, right? you can t use excessive force you can t call someone out and go, hey, buddy, let s take it outside, you re starting it. and when that person starts to beat you up and you re better than fight at you, you don t get to pull out a gun and shoot