catastrophic economic sanctions for you. now they put out their positions and i hope that the diplomats when they meet in january will be able to reduce tensions and de-escalate. and in the long run, there are parts that i agree with mr. putin. i actually think that european security and the institutions that supported it are weaker today than they were 20 years ago and they need to be enhanced. where i think we would disagree is the reason they re weaker is because of putin s belligerency. when he invaded crimea in 2014, supporting separseparatists, a diplomatic word for criminals, assassinations against european citizens in cities like berlin, london, salisbury, alexei navalny is a european citizen too, i want those to be on the table for discussion and that