it does sound like that. it does. but what i m sticking to is what i can testify to. and i ve said that i ll be willing to testify. i m going to tell the truth. and everything that s in that statement i affirm is true. right. and that goes to your testimony. yes. let me read from this. it starts out real simple which is roger stone s accused of bad things and lying about them. mueller says stone directed person 1, that s you, not person 2, to contact the head of wikileaks. person 1, not person 2 told stone the word is friend and the embassy plans two more dumps. so when roger stone was out bragging about his intermediate access to wikileaks, perhaps unbeknownst to you, according to mueller, he was actually referring to you. i think that s quite possible. it s taken me a long time to kind of sort through that, but it does seem to fit together. and why does roger lie about all this, according to mueller? i just don t know.
virginia, swamped by different cameras, bantering, chatting, generally stepping into a circus-like atmosphere that appears honestly comfortable for a self-declared dirty trick center and messaging guru like roger stone. he looked pretty comfortable this weekend. he did a range of press appearances. and tonight the nation knows a lot more than it knew when the fbi agents first raided stone s home on friday. because unlike most defendant, roger stone is talking. are you willing to cut a deal with mueller to avoid the case going to trial? i don t answer hypothetical questions. i will not fold. i will not bend. any chance you ll cooperate with special counsel robert mueller if he asks? this was an egregious overreach by mr. mueller. these are gestapo tactics. i don t think this is the end by any means of, you know, or reaching the end of the mueller investigation. i think there is a lot more to come. we re going to see in short order that roger stone is not
people in the campaign, that i know about, which i know of none, but if there is, i would certainly testify honestly. testifying honestly in cooperation with mueller, that would be something. and in fairness, that is something that mr. stone as a defendant would consider and choose to do. he doesn t need to announce it on television. but as we report this out, note that what you just heard after his indictment is at least a shift in nuance from his past claims. there s no circumstances under which i would testify against the president. there is no circumstance in which i intend to be pressured in order to testify against the president. there is no circumstance under which i would testify against the president because i d have to bear false witness against him. i would predict that they want me to bear false witness against the president. i m just telling you, that s something that i m not going to be pressured into doing it. let s get right into it. i m joined by david corn
written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said roger stone and i never discussed this, and we never did. that may be true. but just think, how does roger stone know what donald trump told mueller in those written interrogatories if he hasn t even discussed wit donald trump or his team, as he just claimed. yesterday roger stone had this to say about conversations with trump. i d also testify honestly about any other matter, including any communications with the president. it s true that we spoke on the phone. but those communications are political in nature. they re benign, and there is certainly no conspiracy with russia. i turn to mara gay and shelby holiday, who has been all over the story for the wall street journal, including reporting on messages that mr. stone sent, i read them in some of your reporting and now read them in the indictment as what mueller says is evidence for witness tampering. thanks to both of you for being
and announce it the day his longest serving adviser is indicted. but as you know, i guess that s the way we live now. and it has, of course, also become something of a clish they shay to say oh, but trump gets away with things and he s not held accountable for his lies. look at the facts. six former aides invited. an open criminal probe. his team is not getting away with everything. roasted and toasted for broken promises by conservatives, which shows that the falsehoods did hurt him in the shutdown fight. so you know trump s lawyers? they always say they don t want him to talk or to testify because mueller would spring a perjury trap. but trump is in trouble because of lies he told all by himself. he is living in a perjury trap house he built himself. and maybe that s very 2019 as well, from a wall to a cave to a trap house. legally, it s too early to know