somebody was trying to poison my water. he was waving a gun around. as far as we know, didn t issue any direct threats to people in the leasing office, but certainly, just the implied threat from waving around a gun is enough to trigger some activity. then he left the leasing office, went back to his apartment in this complex. that s when police arrived. they now have the sandy springs s. w. a.t. team assisted by officers from atlanta cordoned off the area and have surrounded this guy s apartment. according to the captain, they are trying to make contact with him. he may or may not this is a guy in his 30s, he may or may not have an infant in the apartment with him, so they re taking all precaution, of course. you don t want to just break down the door in case there s a threat to a child potentially with this fella. captain dujohn just went to get a briefing. we should have an update in the next little while. a tense standoff at this point and no indication that any activity is immin
from the captain was they are trying to make contact with this fellow. he wasn t aware if negotiators had actually done that, but obviously there is some urgency to get in touch with this fellow, to say hey, we understand you ve got a problem, we want to listen to your problem and have this end peacefully. walk out with your hands clasped behind your head. they re trying to get that done. at the moment we don t know whether they ve made contact with the fellow. we saw two or three officers from the s. w. a.t. team getting close to the apartment, then they backed off. unclear as to whether or not he might have threatened him from inside the apartment or not. but they do want this to end peacefully. it s a highly populated area, there s about 11 or 23 buildings in this complex so they don t want any bullets flying around. that s the last thing they want. jen skwra epbd whether or not there s an infant in the apartment is another question. big question there. thank you, john roberts, sand
mitt romney may be looking over his shoulder in the buckeye state. we re going to talk about that. bill: health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius says if we just had fewer babies we could pay for health care. is that what she said? the reduction in the number of pregnancies is compensates for the cost of contraception. bill: well, that sparked a heated exchange with our next guest, this man here. congressman and doctor tim murphy took issue with that. we ll ask him about that in a moment. martha: and a bank heist in broad daylight, folks. watch this video. how this brazen thief clearly underestimated the local s. w. a.t. team. stick around. we ll show you what happened. we ll be right back.