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Recession started and told us we in recession before anybody else called it, with me last spring and summer when you said the recession is over. do you agree with, first of all, this? in april 09 we said the recession would end in the summer of 09. so we do agree with this. and we have been saying it was june or july. i totally accept the june date. why it s important is because the national bureau of economic research is an objective, using an objective methodology. we all have our feeling, we ll get to in a second, but they re use an objective scorecard for when the economy is expanding, con tragting in a recovery or recession, and it ended in june of 09. let s be clear what that means. all it means is that the economy made it into the recovery room. okay? and started a process of healing. now, anyone who a has been in that situation and made it into a recovery room knows that it still really, really, really hurts when you re in the recovery room, and we re still ....