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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150227:04:07:00

unconstitutional and yet he did it. this is a major principle. it needs to be fought and addressed as quickly as possible. what would you be defunding if the program is not operative if. well, that s the big if. tomorrow it may be operative on saturday or sunday. until they are final, there is a risk at any point in time an appellate court or supreme court could enter the stay of the district court order in which case barack obama is going to immediately implement what we believe and what he himself has said is illegal and unconstitutional conduct. to be fair to your point, the justice department is seeking that, so that could happen. specifically on this vote

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140227:05:13:00

i think very important. usually think of the district court being lowest on the tote empole so they can get overruled. one thing trial courts are given deference on are facts. what this judge did was synced himself to other courts from kansas to california and whatever. gay parents are just as good as straight parents. he cited other district court cases. he s creating a web or a net that it s going to be very hard for an appellate court or supreme court to supersede. essentially trying to say those questions of fact whether or not gay people can be good parents, those questions of fact are being settled around the country all in the same direction. and so what we re going to be argues about at the appellate level is constitutional issues and not the factual matters. i would hang a caveat on

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