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my ambassador of assistance as well? they did. and if i said that number ambassador sondland s use of was circa in the military that term was that the three assistance around 270 million. would that probably be people three people in accurate? close. charge of the ukrainian about right? yeah. did they get aid in policy. he ambassador volker and secretary perry. what did you come when did you come to learn about fy-18? yes, sir. including security mr. giuliani s role and what do you consider his role to assistance? have been? including security assistance. we have already talked about the javelins, the anti-tank missiles that they i heard about former mayor were not able to purchase in previous administrations. giuliani s interest in ukraine in january of this have they gotten security assistance in fy-19? year. that was a different phase yes, sir. prior to the 400 million than what happened during the summertime. was it normal to have a or so that w ....
zelensky s inauguration in may, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations? i believe it was. i can t be 100% sure. i believe it was the largest national delegation. okay. and included in the delegation was secretary perry? secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, senator ron johnson was there and also the charge d affaires at the u.s. embassy at the time, joe pennington. we talked a little bit this morning, but president zelensky s inauguration came together rather quickly? it did. i believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. there s been some discussion whether the vice president was going to be able to lead that effort and as it turned out he was not able to lead it. do you have any information as to why the vice president was unable to join? i don t. and mr. morrison, do you have any information as to why the vice president was unable to participate in the delegation? no. ambassador volker, y ....
that a businessman would have knowledge is limited in any when he is about to sign a transaction. but if you go after his integrity, right, if you go check. and by that he clearly meant after his public service, if you go after his military record, that president trump was you re done. thinking about or had in front but chuck, isn t there a high stakes problem with that, for of him the possibility of providing security assistance to trump and the republicans to say, because then the next question is, okay, who does know ukraine. it was similar to writing a check to someone who you re what trump said? bolton and trump. about to send. he used that analogy very and they don t want those folks to come before congress. i absolutely agree. i m saying if there is a path to clearly to indicate that this try and point out that he has limited knowledge, that s the would be this would require path and it s a narrow one. something. if that person owed him does it ultimately work? no, it ....
that it indicated to you that he had been prepped for the call, to expect this issue to come up. what led you to that conclusion? it seemed unlikely that he would be familiar with a single company in the context of a call that had that was on the broader bilateral relationship, and it seemed to me that he was either tracking this issue because it was in the press or he was otherwise prepped. mr. goldman. thank you, mr. chairman. good morning to both of you. good morning. on july 25th at approximately 9:00 a.m. you both were sitting in the situation room, probably not too much further away than you are right now, and you were preparing for a long-awaited phone call between president trump and president zelensky. now, colonel vindman, in advance of this phone call, did you prepare talking points as you did for the april 21st call? yes, i did. what were those talking points based upon? they were so this is not in the public record and i can t comment to deeply ....
about fighting corruption, we should also say specifically, burisma in 2016. mr. yermak provided me a statement. i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to president trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. the problem being that he is getting a bad set of information, a statement like this could potentially correct that. was mr. guiliani satisfied with the statement? no, he was not. he believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, would not mean anything. so in fact, mr. guiliani wanted a statement that referenced burisma and the 2016 elections explicitly. one that would benefit, essentially, president trump. it is to invest or come here is the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august august 13th. let s put that up on the screen. ....