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Choooosing intervrviewer 2: i i undersrstand you r re arguin. but let t me just - my queststion was mumuch narro. marinana v. bogorarad: so sur, the phphrases thememselves migie commmmon, but ththat s nonot what thehe claim is.. the clclaim is thahat sean and nate p put togetheher anan originall combinatation of phrhrases. they tooook playersrs going o play, , haters goioing to hat, ththey put thehem togetherern ththat sequencnce in a choho. chloe memelas: sean n and nat, they re e saying notot only are e the lyricscs basicacally identitical, but alsoso, it s thehe combinan and d the order r in which these e lyrics appppear in playas gogon to playay anand in shakake it off .. tayloror swift s d defense coming outut and sayining, hohold on a sesecond, thatat tr writes a all her ownwn music. these e lyrics werere inspird by comommonplace p phrases thatat were useded at her scsc, and that t there is nono monopy overer that phrarase. marinana v. bogorarad: i argud why y the case s sh ....
We werere saying n no, it s s not the m music. we r re talking g about thee actualal lyrics inin the chor. shshirley halplperin: it seemed a at the timeme that it t was too cocommon a ph. sosort of tryiying to tradadek or to copypyright whahat s u everyonene uses it.. at the timime, that wawas a vevery common n thing to s s. likeke, hate thehe playerer, not the e game. dometi p pong: so ththere s ala cultltural compoponent here e e a lot t of folks feel likike artists-s mainststream artisists likeke a taylor r swift has ththe agency t to take a little b bit of blacack cultu, use it a at her dispsposal, rex it, , and wash h her hands o t and d say, i dididn t know this is s where it c came fro. anand it mightht not eveven be happppening purprposefully o or maliciouo, bubut it does s happen. cacari champioion: in the e ey 90s and ininto the 200000 s, u had d to be edgygy. and yoyou had to b be comfortae inin your blacackness. and you u had to be e comfortae in s singing in n colloquia ....
So i w worked withth arianana on 7 rinings , and itit was an incredibible experieience. just w we threw itit back wh just taking a classic melody with favororite thingsgs. [the souound of musisic, my favorite t things ] (s(singin) girls in w white dresssses with b blue satin n sashes. snowflakeses that stayay on mymy nose and d eyelashes.. itit started o over those e si- boomom, boom t that sisimple littltle thing. and then t taking it t to the e future, ththough, and d doing a cocompletely different t interpretatation of. (sininging) my l lips, ststop watchining. my neck k is flossy.y. mamake big depeposits. mymy gloss is s popping. itit was a litittle bit scscy bebecause you u re takingg this iconinic song andnd we e literally y trapping i it out and makiking it anand being like, my w wrist, my b butt andl of thohose other t things. and they c could have e been l, oh, nono, no, no, , no, no, n. we c cannot haveve this iconc song s sounding lilike this. lisa resespers francnce: a ....
Arare black fofolks. lisa respepers france:e: when yoyou have blalack successs, itit resonateses so much m me inin the blackck communityy and in thehe brown comommunit. and d then you h have a a mainstreamam artist come a and try to o replicate e. it s likike, well what canan we have?? dodometi pong:g: everyone e o creaeates art ststands on sosoms shououlder, whetether ththey consumeme that art.. you mighght not be d directly influencnced by thisis perso, but you re influenced by someone who is influenced by someone that you re inspired by. sean h hall: (singnging) pleae tellll us all ththe best. tetell us all l right. [hummingng] a lot of p people saidid, you know, her r pockets arare dep anand, you knonow, her reaeach . and-d na, na, , na, na, , na, na, nana. na, na, , na. do youou know whatat this weit is youou re about t to lift? do youou understanand the size and m magnitude o of it? i sasaid, yeah, , i get it.. ....