and that is an international coalition that could come together to fight isis and that would include both president obama and vladimir putin, and toward that end, john kerry confirmed that vladimir putin would be meeting in moscow with hollande on thanksgiving day. american thanksgiving day. two days before that next tuesday, meeting with president obama in washington. take a listen. president hollande will be visiting washington in a week. the presidents will meet. we ll have further discussions. but we are absolutely committed to increasing our efforts in every degree possible and thoughtfully, carefully. reporter: so they will be looking at that relationship. in the meantime, john kerry was also asked about a lot of push-back in the united states against refugees and calls by many governors to no longer allow syrian refugees to come