department, working with the secretary and his team on presidential appointments, he really did care about people who would manage their teams well, and would respect them and i ll always admire that. i was just recently at the bush 41 library in college station and looking at the exhibits. the presence of colin powell was was enormous for president bush 41 as well, a steady hand through the gulf war when he was at national security office but then also at dod. so it just felt over many decades, his presence and an example that i think others in the military and in the civil service will always look up to. it s interesting, could you look at any exhibit that covers american history from the 80s, 90s or early 2000s and it would have to include something on general powell, because he