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To watch people vote, you know, one of the things that those people don t know is it s actually against the law to intimidate people while they are trying to vote. so, you know, we re going to continue to see this. but i think we ve been winning, and we ve been winning because they have been lying about why they re doing it. and they are the ones who have been rigging the elections. you know, what judy just talked about, i mean trump has been telling folks, you know, after you vote, go to another precinct to watch it. you know, there s obviously a really nasty history there about how that s played out in the pafts. a very long history. i mean that s why restricting voting is so dangerous because we ve done it already in this country. we had things like poll taxes and literacy tests and cops patrolling black neighborhoods and preventing people from voting. we ve been through this before, so we don t want to go down this road again. if trump wanted to talk about the real voter fraud, ....
So we don t want to go down this road again. if trump wanted to talk about the real voter fraud, the real election rigging, he would talk about the fact this is the first presidential election in 50 years without the full protections of the voting rights act. he would talk about the fact this is the first election since the supreme court has gutted the voting rights act. but since those are things that republicans did to try to benefit republicans, you don t hear about that being the leading threat to american democracy. i want to be careful about this word rigging because it has a very specific meaning, this sort of like intentional behind the scenes manipulation of outcomes. what we re seeing is a series of hurdles that have been put in place in front of certain populations. judy, it strikes me part of this is ang expression of the sense that conservatives and republicans, a lot of them believe they re the majority in this country and the way they square electoral defeat on a natio ....
I want to play this clip of john mccain because this is important, i think, it note that this idea, which is being explicitly articulated by trump in a new and novel way, builds on something that s been part of the conservative movement for years. here s john mccain back in 2008. take a listen. we need to know the full extent of senator obama s relationship with acorn, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy. i mean that s good old john mccain, you know, who everybody celebrates as the sober alternative trump. this has been something that republican politicians and conservative folks have been talking about for years. that s right. when all else fails, claim voter fraud. and then when you claim it, don t forget to blame it on black people and people of color, especially undocumented immigrants. that s really been that s been the playbook for a long time. ....
Will have new voting restrictions in place for the first time in a presidential election. joining me now, judith brown dee annis, and ari berman. judy, let me start with you. i want to play this clip of john mccain because this is important, i think, it note that this idea, which is being explicitly articulated by trump in a new and novel way, builds on something that s been part of the conservative movement for years. here s john mccain back in 2008. take a listen. we need to know the full extent of senator obama s relationship with acorn, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy. i mean that s good old john mccain, you know, who everybody celebrates as the sober alternative trump. this has been something that republican politicians and conservative folks have been talking about for years. that s right. when all else fails, claim voter fraud. and then when you claim it, ....
so when ryan and other leaders in the party, mitt romney i spoke to a trump supporter in florida last week who said, i used to love the bush family. i supported them in all their elections and now they re dead to me. so they ve chosen trump s side in that battle. that s the precedent there for the legitimacy of the election, which is that if you can turn people s opinions around on a dime on something like paul ryan, right, then you can or the bushes. molly ball, thanks for your time. appreciate it. still to come, brand-new polling showing the battleground map continuing to expand for the democratic party. tonight news that michelle obama is headed to a deep red state to try and flip it. that s ahead. but first, while donald trump republicans continue to perpetuate this myth of systematic widespread voter fraud, the actual cause for concern, this election day, is exactly the opposite. i ll explain after this two-minute break. ....