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And from time to time when ive done this panel with friends and colleagues, ive called it on or off their pedestals. The debate over statues, memorials, memory and meaning. And ive discussed this topic at twice or three times with edna medford. And it is evolving even between us as we proceed over about a year and a half. And its a pleasure to welcome not only edna medford, but also liz varon and Gary Gallagher to join the discussion. Of 1,728 confederate memorials in 22 states and the district of columbia, 110 have been removed in the past few years. And three new ones have been built. So it is good to have the opportunity to take a snapshot. At best it will be a snapshot. And i think that we all have to agree that however we feel about art, ography and icons, history, and american heroes and villains alike, that the controversy over statues and memorials thought only attributed to confederates in the south and also to those, and ....