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Things distracting us from the structural change that needs to happen. we often talk about truth and reconciliation, remembering that the truth has to come before the reconciliation. what these things do is take us away from having a conversation about the truth. people keep calling it a you neat the right rally. there s no way to talk about white nationalism white nationalism is racist. there s no naon-racist version f white nationalism. we should talk about this as a racist rally and not rooted in white nationalism as if that is a legitimate policy. alfred, do you think that that conversation is happening more? when you say we re freer to talk about it. what do you feel that you re freer to talk about that you couldn t before this? well, it s happening more and it s just as he said, it s basically being before people would talk about white supremacists and now it s white nationalists. white nationalists is just another word or another word to try to smooth it over and make
PeopleThingsConversationTruthReconciliationChangeRememberingThe-wayRallyNationalismWhite-nationalismMinaonOthers do unto you. joining me now is alfred wilson, heather heyer s former boss. i m also joined by an organizer of the black lives matter movement and the author of the other side of freedom, the case for hope. alfr alfred, i remember speaking to you on the streets of charlottesville a year ago when this was all new and fresh and so soul crushing. where are you and where is charlottesville a year later. thank you for having me here. i believe charlottesville a year later is it was better prepared as far as the rally, but as far as the community itself, heather s death has opened up the conversation or opened up the difficult conversation of racism that has occurred or that is occurring, i should say, in the community. it s allowed all of us as individuals to talk more free
Heather-heyerOthersAuthorAlfred-wilsonOrganizerMovementLivesCaseSideFreedomHopeThe-streets-of-charlottesville-aSymbolism as leading into structural issues. all right, guys, thank you very much for being with us. deray mckesson and alfred wilson. coming up, we re going to take a turn to turkey. the country is a nato ally and important to the united states. making it easy for you n to get your windshield fixed. teacher: let s turn in your science papers. tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. student: i did mine on volcanoes. teacher: you did?! oh, i can t wait to read it. tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage. she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we d be there. teacher: you must be pascal. tech: yes ma am. tech vo: saving her time. [honk, honk] kids: bye! tech vo: .so she can save the science project. kids: whoa! kids vo: safelite repair, safelite replace
CountryUsTurkeyRightIssuesGuysAlfred-wilsonDeray-mckessonTurnRallySymbolismNatoAbout peace going forward. alfred, thank you for talking to me and thank you for your work. thank you for having us. i ask everyone to please go to theheatherheyerfoundation.com, to help us keep activism alive. thank you very much. i sincerely appreciate it. here on msnbc on sunday, which will be the one-year anniversary of charlottesville, msnbc will be sharing a story of a former white supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others. please join me in watching breaking the hate, sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. you re watching velshi & ruhle. hey dad. if he d taken tylenol, he d be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can t do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long.
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