others do unto you. >> joining me now is alfred wilson, heather heyer's former boss. i'm also joined by an organizer of the black lives matter movement and the author of "the other side of freedom, the case for hope." alfr alfred, i remember speaking to you on the streets of charlottesville a year ago when this was all new and fresh and so soul crushing. where are you and where is charlottesville a year later. >> thank you for having me here. i believe charlottesville a year later is -- it was better prepared as far as the rally, but as far as the community itself, heather's death has opened up the conversation or opened up the difficult conversation of racism that has occurred or that is occurring, i should say, in the community. it's allowed all of us as individuals to talk more free