moment. you feel confident jumping in moment. you feel confidentjumping in and saying stop, fantastic, but lots of us don t. but there are still some things we can do, bring someone else in, ask them if they want to sit by you, do something, just don t walk by. the want to sit by you, do something, just don t walk by. just don t walk by. the point is that some just don t walk by. the point is that some of just don t walk by. the point is that some of these just don t walk by. the point is that some of these smaller - just don t walk by. the point is - that some of these smaller offences whether it s verbal abuse or harassment or indecent exposure, they can lead to more serious offences and that is the real worry. absolutely. people do notjust start their criminal career doing the kind of behaviour that wayne couzens are misogynistic whatsapp groups, if someone calls someone else when they show that behaviour, it may not make that person think that behaviour is wrong but it may m
what the metropolitan police have said about the reforms they will be looking at is absolutely right. we also need to look at what more government can do to build confidence. this is obviously an appalling, shocking case, and we must make sure that at least something that comes out of this is that we can give more confidence to more women about their own safety. joining me now is dr gillian harrop, senior lecturer in forensic psychology at the university of worcester and heads up the bystander intervention programme at the university. just talk to us about what exactly this programme is. the just talk to us about what exactly this programme is. just talk to us about what exactly this rouramme is. , ., ., ., , this programme is. the programme was created as a way this programme is. the programme was created as a way to this programme is. the programme was created as a way to train this programme is. the programme was created as a way to train our this programme is. the programm
let s respond if there is an issue, let s respond if there is an issue, let s create a positive community where we are sending a clear message to say violence and abuse won t be tolerated, and we will ask people that when they do spot it, they speak out and we trained them in terms of what they can actually do. just give us some examples of what we are talking about, this kind of behaviour that you want people to spot, look out for and maybe do something about. it spot, look out for and maybe do something about. something about. if you are in a whatsapp something about. if you are in a whatsapp grow something about. if you are in a whatsapp group and something about. if you are in a whatsapp group and you - something about. if you are in a whatsapp group and you see i something about. if you are in a - whatsapp group and you see someone making sexist, misogynistic comments, perhaps you saw a male student make comments about some of the female students, don t laugh it off, don t
that sends the message that you don t think it s ok. it s about not saying, that makes me uncomfortable but stopping and doing something about that. it starts to change the culture about what we consider to be acceptable. you culture about what we consider to be acce table. ., culture about what we consider to be accetable. ., , .,, , acceptable. you say people see behaviour acceptable. you say people see behaviour may acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be on acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be on a - acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be on a bus - acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be on a bus or l acceptable. you say people see behaviour may be on a bus or a j behaviour may be on a bus or a train, a woman being harassed or verbally abused, that people should intervene, is that what you re recommending? intervene, is that what you re recommending? intervene, is that what you re recomme