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Professor stuenkel, of the think tank getulio vargas foundation. he is a well known commentator on brazilian politics and brazil on the world stage. that s our panel. welcome. applause. and remember, you can alljoin the conversation, use the hash tag, global questions. but now it s time to start. let s go to our first question in the audience. agusto salles, your question. in lula s first hundred days since returning to power, some people see him as a saviour of the poor and some other people see him as a trickster. what directions is he taking his government? joao brant, saviour of the poor or trickster where is president lula leading brazil now? well, i think we are back, and when we think, when we know and when we say we are back, we mean we have to look after the people that ....
Welcome. applause. and remember you can alljoin the conversation, use the hashtag, global questions. but now it s time to start. let s go to our first question in the audience. agusto salles, your question. in lula s first hundred days since returning to power, some people see him as a saviour of the poor and some other people see him as a trickster. what directions is he taking his government? joao brant, saviour of the poor or trickster where is president lula leading brazil now? well, i think we are back, and when we think, when we know and when we say we are back, we mean we have to look after the people that most need the state support, we have to look after 33 million people that are suffering hunger situation. ....
People that don t have the basic conditions to live, that s one thing. 0n the other side, we also have to look at brazil as a whole, to think of development, think of a sustainable development, think of protecting the rainforest, which is a very important issue today as we see brazil leading this debate again on protecting, and especially related to climate change. so i think we have to understand brazil as try repeating lula s good actions in the first two administrations that he had, but also, looking forward and looking to the future and understanding how to build the best way forward to us. protecting the poor, protecting the amazon. ricardo salles, how would you see the return of president lula to answer, and to agusto salles s question? well, we all expected, i when lula was elected, unfortunately for my side, - ....
We re looking at people that are not having their households, people that don t have the basic conditions to live, that s one thing. on the other side, we also have to look at brazil as a whole, to think of development, think of a sustainable development, think of protecting the rainforest, which is a very important issue today as we see brazil leading this debate again on protecting, and especially related to climate change. so i think we have to understand brazil as try repeating lula s good actions in the first two administrations that he had, but also, looking forward and looking to the future and understanding how to build the best way forward to us. protecting the poor, protecting the amazon. ricardo salles, how would you see the return of president lula to answer, and to agusto salles s question? ....
That have tojoin them. just a word just a quick word. sure. i think that. a big problem? the big problem in brazil that all presidents, even if they win a landslide, are minority presidents in congress. which they didn t. but even in this case, without a landslide, the governing party has only a very small slice of congress, and there s lots of parties, huge number of parties i like to compare with. 0hh, dealmaking. so, and there are parties which are, let s say, ideologically flexible, willing to support whoever is in power, but they want something in return. let s go on to the next question. we have one from viviane viani great name. the bolsonaro government, which had mr salles as one of its ministers, propagated a lot of fake news about science, deforestation, forest fires and climate change. how can we restore brazilians trust in institutions in the role of science? 0k, ricardo, we re going to come ....