during that siege? were you worried about his safety? no, i heard he was well protected. i heard he was in very good shape. but the chants, that was terrible on the he could have well, the people were very angry. they re saying hang mike pence. it is common sense, john. it is common sense that you re supposed to protect how can you if you know a vote is fraudulent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? wow. former president trump defending the january 6th rioters who were hunting down then vice president pence. jonathan carl interviewed trump for his new book, which is chalk full of new reporting on the lengths the former president and his allies went, trying to overturn his 2020 election loss. among that new reporting is then white house chief of staff mark meadows, who played a key role in trying to convince pence he had the authority to stop the certification, sending an email to a top aide, for the former vice president, detailing
thrown me. and i didn t think it did throw me. but then i noticed i was hitting fatigue spots yesterday and today that aren t supposes to be there. i just keep making all the wrong decisions. i went fishing yesterday. just enough time to fish if part of the river and that part of the river and get back to my vehicle before it gets dark. and there is me in the woods in the dark at the end of it. having completely miscalculated all of it. i can t adjust. we shouldn t do this anymore. just strap a flashlight to your, backpack now for the next month. forehead. it s going to take you a while. it s going to take you a while, rachel. i know. thank you, lawrence. thank you, rachel. well, tonight we begin with the breaking news of the night that contains a mystery. in the middle of it that we hope to clarify with our first guest tonight, congressman adam schiff. the house select committee investigating the january 6 attack on the capitol issued six new subpoenas. three o
to overturn the election, being involved in the so-called war rooms at the willard hotel, and we need to find out everything they said and did. some subpoenas in this latest batch focus on the reported use of the willard hotel near the white house as a so-called command center for staging the effort to keep trump in power. it s in the woodward and costa book called peril. the committee s letter to attorney john eastman notes that he was, quote, at the willard hotel war room with steve bannon and others on the days leading up to the january 6th insurrection where the focus was on delaying or blocking the certificate of the election. committee also says he reportedly, quote, wrote two memoranda offering several scenarios for the vice president to potentially change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. like that s a thing. the subpoena also mentions eastman s appearance at the rally that took place just before the insurrection. we know there was fraud, traditiona
All those appointed by donald trump said there was absolutely nothing to the charges. what was your takeaway talking to donald trump and digging into this as deeply as you did? well, first of all, i think that the role of mark meadows that was just mentioned by mika there is incredibly important because there has been a lot of talk about the memo written by john eastman, this outside lawyer who advised trump. no, this was right in the white house. this was the white house chief of staff, this was his one of his campaign lawyers, outlining a very specific plan with dates and times that was all send centering on mike pence obeying the orders of donald trump and it was a plan that if pence had gone along with, would have resulted in a much bigger constitutional crisis than what we saw. and, joe, what i found is that s just one example of where this could have gone off the rails and almost did go off the rails, even in a more spectacular way than it actually did.