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I think its going to be significant, 46,000 or 48,000 but you have the supply chain for gm, all of the construction around gm, so youve got a lot of ancillary folks that have been out of work and manufacturing isnt necessarily what drives the economy, its the consumer primarily and we are a service economy, and even though the numbers might be good, its the manufacturing thats really going tamp down here. Neil john, one one of the thins that im hearing to daniels point, not just 48 to 50,000gm striking workers impacting this but up to 200,000 more in ancillary business suppliers and the rest. What do you think of that . I think the estimate that roughly 75,000 to 80,000 jobs being temporarily lost because of gm strike. Neil okay, so if thats the case and they factored that in, is this just a oneoff, what do you think . A lot of reasons it can be a oneoff, results of slowdown at boeing, census workers who were temporarily hired and maybe are coming off the rolls, a lot of noise in the n ....

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